Posts by Sail Away

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Happy Thanksgiving!

by Oubliette in

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friends

happy thanksgiving everyone!

i know that we are an international group here and that thanksgiving is an american holiday (and not even all of us in the us celebrate it), but i thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to sharing the many things we have to be thankful for: .

i am thankful for: .

Sail Away

Happy Thanksgiving Oubliette!

I'm thankful that, in spite of great distances, we were able to have family time for Thanksgiving. We drove down to Annapolis, MD from Connecticut to be with our son. He and I cooked a fantastic dinner together. Then we called my daughter in Guatemala City and had a video chat with my husband, son, daughter, grandson and I. We got to see my grandson crawl for the first time. Best Thanksgiving ever! Can't wait for Christmas in Guatemala! I can't believe I lived my first 52 years in life without holidays.

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Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed

by Phaedra in

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friends

yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..

Sail Away

So sorry, Phaedra. It's the way cults roll. My JW in-laws expressly wrote their only child out of their wills decades ago. The WTBTS takes all of a million dollar plus estate. We are into the third generation of shunning in our family. No sense being angry; it won't change a thing. Sadly, my FIL who accepts brief calls for "necessary family business" only, asked my husband to convey their love to their grandchildren and great grandson, but our kids simply don't care. Why should they? They never knew their grandparents who were too busy shunning their own son for nearly 45 years, and now they are shunning them as well. It's a shame to be in your 90's and have no family connections because of a doomsday cult.

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2016 Outline for "Elders meet with regular pioneers, special pioneers and field missionaries."

by wifibandit in

pdf.

Sail Away

Shampoo, lather, rinse, repeat!

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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friends

my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

Sail Away

Snakes, I'm so sorry for your loss. Take all the time you need to greive. The only thing in life that seems to be true is impermanence. One day you will have fond memories of your brother, smile and celebrate his life. If your relationship was difficult, you can find forgiveness.

In any event, sudden deaths of any kind are difficult. We don't always get the chance to say the things we would have liked to say. Sometimes the JW factor gets in the way of greiving, for example, when we are excluded from the funeral services. In that that case, you will find your own way to move forward. Trust the process. Learn kindness and forgiveness toward yourself and others. We all have our own struggle. Some of us have been where you are now, and we care.

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heart troubles

by zeb in

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friends

dear all,.

my health took a beating over the years with stress from various sources, not a little from the wt; and dangerous areas of work involving fumes and so on.

the arc also took its toll and i have had recently a heart attack.

Sail Away

(((Zeb))) Wishing you a speedy recovery!

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses marriages even legit?

by Joliette in

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friends

i ask this because of the circumstances behind why they get married and who they get married by.

i know people say that they are really in love, they love jehovah, etc, but are these marriages even legit.

i've talked to older jw's sister who are now widowed, some of them say that they were trapped in a marriages.

Sail Away

I'm speaking of marriages arranged by the organization-- only marry a believer in good standing who will be a "good spiritual head" or a good "spiritual, submissive wife" based on the org's monitoring and criteria. Check with the elders about your intended's standing in the congregation. Follow all the courting/chaperoning rules. Group dating only. Don't even sit next to a brother / sister at the KH unless you are engaged. Don't dance too close at congregation "get-togethers" (a thing of the past). No kissing other than maybe a peck on the cheek. Essentially, you don't choose your future partner yourself, the org does it for you. Really no different than marrying someone who you never met who was chosen by your family. JWs go into marriage blind. Been there, done that.

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses marriages even legit?

by Joliette in

jw
friends

i ask this because of the circumstances behind why they get married and who they get married by.

i know people say that they are really in love, they love jehovah, etc, but are these marriages even legit.

i've talked to older jw's sister who are now widowed, some of them say that they were trapped in a marriages.

Sail Away

Most, if not all JW marriages are arranged marriages, IMO.

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I miss my family so much. I thought I was over it but I have breakdowns every few months thinking about my family

by macys in

as most of you know i have been shunned by my family for 2 years because of a photo posted on facebook of me kissing another girl at a party.

the matter was not dealt with fairly but it is over now and i am 100% certain that jdub org is a cult.

but i miss my family so much.

Sail Away

My in-laws are shunning my husband, our two children and their great grandson-- shunning three generations deep. They would be shunning me if they knew I was out. Are you certain you want to risk exposing your future children to that? Remember, too, that all visitation would have to be supervised to protect your children against recruitment efforts. There are ex-JWs who are shunned by their own children.

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I Hate the Sound of the Word Jehovah

by cofty in

listening to clips of the latest manipulative video from the watchtower i realised how much i detest that word - jehovah.. sometimes i have thought it would be interesting to observe a meeting or part of a convention.

every time i heard that word i would be unable to stay in my seat.. i have a visceral reaction every time i hear it.

it stands for so much that i have contempt for.

Sail Away

For me it's about loaded language, an identifying mark of a cult. I have a visceral response to the word striving. My therapist used it in a positive way. I still connect it to the concept that 'everything is vanity and striving after the wind'. I explained it to him and asked him not to use the word anymore. I still have a lot of triggers even four plus years out.

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2015-Information Needed For Visit Of Circuit Overseer-S-61-E!

by Atlantis in

no wonder the elder's are becoming burned out and stepping down!

2015, information needed for visit of circuit overseer.

.. click the green download button.. .. information needed for visit of circuit overseer .

Sail Away

"Names of brothers recommended for appointment or deletion. (The circuit overseer will obtain personal and spiritual information from each one’s Congregation’s Publisher Record card, and any pertinent history can be shared with him on Tuesday by the coordinator of the body of elders or another selected elder.—ks10 chap. 3 pars. 6-10)"

Right, because "spiritualality" is defined by hours spent promoting a publishing/real estate flipping company.